Christmas Werewolf

The lovers are informed they are lovers and are held to the same rules as everyone else in the game. Any communication between them must be done in the thread.
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Sloane Stark said:
The lovers are informed they are lovers and are held to the same rules as everyone else in the game. Any communication between them must be done in the thread.
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So are they informed immediately when the cupid makes their decision? Because it's only been one round, so I thought they would've found out when day phase came and all the night roles had had their turn.​
 
They found out just before the day phase started.
 
You guys, isn't it obvious?
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little Miss Smith discovered the scene of a crime close to her bakery.
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We're on to you, "Miss Smith" :glare:
 
Gosh that is a terrible start to the game. we lost our seer (or our fool) and managed to kill the ghost. how do you even start to comprehend who it could be.
am I correct in saying there are two wolves in town?
 
I was thinking that too because I vaguely remember from other games both the Seer and Fool appearing as a Seer when they die. Either way, we lost a non-wolf.

Yup, I'm pretty sure it's two.
 
Boo to that.

Well as with my first day it's hard to know who done it so is anyone going to vote because we might just end up making the wolves job easier? :erm:
 
D: what a bad start

Teigan, can we get clarification on how the fool would show up if dead?
 
Oh man, I never even considered that it could be the fool showing up as seer :S

I think the ghost playing for either team came from the set of roles I put together when I ran, since Teigan's using the original set I would assume the ghost is team villager. If they don't have any extra info it'd be a shot in the dark for them either way at this stage, though.
 
Two people dead already. Great news to come home to.
 
Both Kris Kringle (seer) and Jack Frost (fool) appear as Kris Kringle.
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That's some good news, at least, there's still hope we have a seer :D

I used to really be for lynching immediately, but the last few games have sort of made me realize that rarely works out xD so I vote for not voting for now
 
Ainsley Lynch said:
I think the ghost playing for either team came from the set of roles I put together when I ran, since Teigan's using the original set I would assume the ghost is team villager. If they don't have any extra info it'd be a shot in the dark for them either way at this stage, though.
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Ghost of Christmas Past - 11 players. Once you have been killed, you may take one person with you. This is the ghost role, but renamed.
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Yeah, so this time around there's no letters, just a random person, villager or wolf, could die, which I guess makes it more of a neutral role since it has so much potential to hinder either side. Especially this early in the game, with there being only a 2/13 chance of getting a wolf.

I'm stumped for what to do today. I don't want to vote because no one is particularly jumping out at me as shifty, but we won't really progress otherwise. That being said, we didn't vote on day one last game, and it worked out for the town. I just know that we'd be way more likely to lynch a villager at this stage than a wolf. I do agree with Daphne on not voting, especially since the ghost will be killing someone anyway, and its just as likely to be as random as a lynch. Abstaining means that by "tomorrow", at worst we'll only have two dead people, one villager from the wolf and one villager/wolf from the ghost, instead of three people dead if we vote today. With so fewer players right off the bat, I'd rather we hold on to having as many of us as we can.
 
We also don't get anything to build from when we don't vote. In person, you can have both verbal and physical tells to help guide your decisions. When we don't vote, there's nothing to build on, as words are our only tells- so seeing how and if people defend themselves really is all we have to go on- and we lose at least one person each night we don't which means a 0% chance of killing off a wolf that day. And the game sort of stalls, though that's a more personal opinion.

I won't be the one to break the no vote strategy if that's what everyone wants to do, but I disagree that it's a good strategy.
 
I get that feeling too and I've definitely been on that side of the argument before, but as Jesse pointed out, someone will die already at the hands of the ghost, so we can also draw clues from that most likely.
 
Now see that's where I think inaction is helpful- if you're the ghost and get killed off this early in the game, it's a stab in the dark to who you kill. So I don't think it's all that helpful for the village unless the ghost lucks out and happens to choose a wolf. It's probably more beneficial to the village for the ghost to do nothing
 
Please note that inaction by the town triggers a random lynch. Please make sure your vote is clear.
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Oh rip.

In that case I think I'd rather lynch someone who hasn't been active during the day, as
a) They could be a wolf trying to keep under the radar
and b) Its fairer for those of us who are actually participating in the game.

The people who haven't posted are, I think -
Professor Kida Frost
Keira Potter
and Dreama Petulengaro

Both Ash and Kait have been online, but haven't posted during the day.
Ana hasn't been online in a week. That being said, I don't want to rule her out as being a wolf because she hasn't been online, since it only takes one wolf to submit a kill.
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Considering the options, I can't decide if I still think not lynching is a good idea. We run a high likelihood of losing a villager either way, at this stage I don't feel like there's any reason to suspect anyone in particular of being a wolf so the vote would be about as random as the random lynch, but with the added factor of wolves being able to influence it. The only other difference between lynching and not lynching is how much data we wind up with about who voted which way. If we leave it entirely up to random chance, we don't get any closer to seeing any suspicious behaviour. But if we lynch without reason this early on there's so little to go on that it'd be hard to work out what is and isn't suspicious. Given how little time is left in the day and how few people in the game are online right now to actually get their votes in if a vote did happen, I'm going to stick with not voting and hope we get lucky on the RNG this round. Hopefully next round we'll have more to go on.

Edit: Oh dunk Jesse didn't see your post while I was writing mine. I still think I'd prefer not to lynch for now, since I don't think there's much info to be gained from it at this stage.
 
Dang, that would have been nice to know sooner D:

While I don't think voting for inactive people is a bad strategy, I do think its a little bit late now to vote while a lot of people probably won't see it.

That said, RNG also doesn't really sit well with me x_x
 
As day turned to night, the townies started to realise that they and nothing to do but make a choice. Coming to the end of the court, Professor Kida Frost a townie was lynched. Her lifeless body became the heart of the determination for the town to find the wolves. Quietly, the townspeople returned to their homes, all thoughts of their snowy Christmas far from their thoughts.
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The moon gave way to the sun as the town came awake on the morning of Christmas. The children, concerned by what they might see, were left in the bedrooms of their modest homes as the adults ventured out to see the damage. Almost entirely buried under the tree in the centre of the town, Professor Cyndi Kingsley, a townie was seen torn limb from limb. The town sighed at the loss of yet another beloved member. They did not have much time.​

IT IS DAY​
 
Well dang. RIP Ash & Cyndi.

This complicates the theories I was working on over the night cycle somewhat. My instinct is to be suspicious of the people who seemed most keen to lynch, since early lynches are easy for wolves to manipulate and thin the herd. Cyndi (from the word go) and Jesse (only after the random lynch was announced, initially was against lynching) were the most vocally in favour of lynching, and with Cyndi out that would in theory make Jesse the most obvious target. Unless a wolf is playing reverse psych and trying to make Jesse stand out as suspicious in that way, while keeping attention off themselves. Unless it's Jesse playing reverse reverse psychology & trying to group himself with Cyndi, who we now know to be innocent. (I'm like an onion but my layers are massively overthinking absolutely everything. I doubt it's actually this deep, but I'm brainstorming into this post box right now.) Either way, I'm not sure if this holds up as reason enough for me to feel like I could justify voting based on it right now.

I'm still not sure what to think. Given how little we have to go on unless someone other than me has noticed something deeply suspicious our options for today seem for the most part to be either pick a target at random early in the day cycle just for the sake of getting the ball rolling, now that everyone has a full day cycle to respond and defend/accuse. Or... sit out another night and do nothing? I don't think there's anything to be gained from a second random lynching with no debate. But having said all that guff in the first paragraph about being suspicious of those keen on early lynchings, I'm now realising that by my own standards, this is an extremely wolfy post. (I'm not a wolf, but I am a hypocrite!) So, in the interest of not coming across as a wolf trying to choose villager targets for lynchings, I'm gonna leave this post here and go to sleep and see if anyone else gets picked, either at random or based on some evidence I didn't piece together. If there's a target or two by then I'll follow the will of the group in the morning.

I love to take two enormous paragraphs to say and do absolutely nothing of any use :lol: catch you in the AM (I say as if it's not one am already)

OK WAIT I finished this entire post and then went back and reread the thread and realised that if I was going to take posting in favour of lynching into account a tactic the wolves might try if they're doing a one active wolf/one wolf laying low strategy would be for the passive wolf to post just once so they had technically been present in the thread, and then have the active wolf suggest lynching anyone who hadn't posted yet, pointing the villagers towards a list of other villagers without actually being the one to choose a name, and allowing the passive wolf to fly under the radar. Rereading the thread the people who only posted once were Dan, Kaitlyn, Pat, Steph, and Mia. (I think.) Obviously this is tenuous. It's day one, there's very little to go on and very little to talk about, not to mention people have lives outside the site and site responsibilities outside the game. I don't necessarily think this is a likely wolf tactic or nearly enough evidence to make any decisions based on but it did occur to me and felt worth saying before I forgot it. If 1 AM while desperately procrastinating sleep isn't the time for tenuous theories what is? (Again. To clarify. I don't think this is enough to vote based on, it relies on a lot of assumptions and guesswork, it's just a possible tactic that occurred to me. If nothing else it's a recommendation for future wolf teams in future games :lol: )

I'm basically talking to myself at this point and should probably go to bed now so goodnight and I'm very sorry for this bad and long post :geek:
 
With some active people taken out, and the randomizer that lynches someone each night, this is starting to grow dire fast D: I think activity can be suspicious, but I know there's also people (like me) that just get really competitive and invested and thus tend to post a lot.

Normally I would agree that the people most keen on lynching are the most suspicious, but Cyndi has already been proven innocent and Jesse was reluctant to lynch as well until it became clear someone would die anyway (and I agree that in that case, it's smarter to lynch as its at least based on something)

I'm a bit nervous that the wolves are two quiet people, which will make it extremely hard to pin down I think :s
 
We have 11 people, with 2 as wolves. Claire normally made the list, so the odds are still in our favor and all.
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