Professor Nicolas King said:
Isabella Chaos said:
Why not hate Titanic or any other romance movie? What's so horribly wrong about Twilight?
I don't get why people hate Twilight so much, so if someone could please explain it to me? :-?
Well, I do generally dislike romance movies (though romantic comedies seem to be alright
) so I think I can justly answer your questions.
Okay, well, to start, Titanic held a minute amount of historical significance, and it didn't involve vampires that sparkle in sunlight.
Twilight is yet another vampire romance novel, but taking out tonnes of the dark aspects of them, and whipping in sissy little things that make most female teenagers go all gushy (ie sparkling).
So, you've set up such a small target audience, readers/viewers have to fit into a set of people who enjoy romance movies, a subset of those people who enjoy vampire romance, a sub-subset of people who will accept that vampires sparkle in sunlight and that sunlight doesn't otherwise harm them and then a final sub set of THAT sub set of people who will accept an author breaking a billion laws of her own universe just to end the series with an ending readers enjoy.
That just gives you your limited audience for the books, really, then for the films you're bound to have less people like it because people never like movies made from books. Ever.
So really, it was set up to fail.
Ok now that I have sufficient time to answer this...
I understand how Twilight could've been set up for a certain type of reader, which according to you, is a really small amount, but the majority of my friends had never read any other type of vampire novel so it's not like they were attracted to it
because it was a "vampire novel" from the beginning. And if the audience it's targeted towards so "small" then why is it such a "phenomenon"? It's obviously attracting
enough people to be so big. (Although the stupid headlines saying "Move over Harry Potter" is complete B.S.
) And also, my friend, who's a manly man
read the entire Twilight series and he thinks it's really good. He has really good taste in literature, and was curious about Twilight. (Once again, I'm not saying Twilight is a literary masterpiece, because yes I know it's not, it's just a good book to read). And coming from a male point of view, it must mean something since he can't exactly say he likes it because of Edward.
And those friends of mine who HAVE read other vampire novels, STILL like Twilight. My friend love love loves Jane Austen novels, and especially Anne Rice, etc and she still says "Edward is [her] ideal vampire." I don't see what's so wrong with making her vampires sparkle? So WHAT if it makes readers go gushy, that's what I meant by at least it makes me feel something different than a typical vampire story, as opposed to the same old same old. I give Stephenie props for going against the norm and creating her own vampire characteristics. Just because Stephenie decided to go a different way with her vampires, does not mean they aren't as dangerous as the others. An example is when Edward says he's the worlds most dangerous predator
because he sparkles. Their sparkling skin isn't just to look pretty, it's to lure their food in. Everything about them invites the human in, their scent, their looks (sparkling skin, gorgeous face), their voice, etc. so they're just as dangerous as other "real" vampires in other novels.
Though one thing I completely agree with you about Nick is the breaking of her own rules to end the series with a happily ever after. THAT was complete B.S. and was totally stupid on her end. Seriously, wth. And trust me, not many readers enjoyed that ending.
And also, to say that people NEVER like movies made from books. Ever. is WRONG.
I like Harry Potter movies, and I really liked the Twilight movie. Those are movies made from books. So even if I am the only person to think they are good movies, it still means you are wrong because you basically spoke for everyone when you said that, and it wasn't true.
Although you're right that it does have a limited audience, it is still enough for it to be something huge.
And its not as limited as you think it is. My sister, who's never heard/read/seen ANYTHING about Twilight ever, went to go see it with her big time thug boyfriend, and they both really liked it, enough to want to go see it again, without having known anything about it previously.
Sure it's cheesy, but in the end, an author/director's intentions with their product is to entertain people, and Twilight did that. Maybe not for you personally, but that's fine.
My sister, her thug boyfriend, and my "death metal" boyfriend, stray FAR from the Twilight/any vampire novel reader stereotypes, and the fact that they all liked it a lot, shows that it can be liked by others outside the small targeted audience.
I don't know if this makes sense anymore, and it's pretty late so I'll just leave it at that
but feel free to keep pointing stuff out to me. I don't mind being wrong and listening to your opinions because it gives me perspective on the opposing side and thus, I apply your answers to my thoughts and now know how to respond to someone more accurately and justified the next time a Twilight discussion erupts.
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