The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement

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Ford Harkonnen

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That is a load of bull S#17
Canada best say F*ck off and leave the summit :mad:
 
Professor Nicolas King said:
That is a load of bull S#17
Canada best say F*ck off and leave the summit :mad:
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Every country best raise hell about that godawful excuse of 'responsible governing'.
 
Ford Harkonnen said:
Professor Nicolas King said:
That is a load of bull S#17
Canada best say F*ck off and leave the summit :mad:
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Every country best raise hell about that godawful excuse of 'responsible governing'.
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Did it say which country is heading it up?

I would be inclined to suggest the states, but I know Canada has a nasty bit of legislation trying to sneak through the cracks...
 
Professor Nicolas King said:
Ford Harkonnen said:
Professor Nicolas King said:
That is a load of bull S#17
Canada best say F*ck off and leave the summit :mad:
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Every country best raise hell about that godawful excuse of 'responsible governing'.
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Did it say which country is heading it up?

I would be inclined to suggest the states, but I know Canada has a nasty bit of legislation trying to sneak through the cracks...
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I don't know, it's going through 'secret negotiations', so it's probable that no one knows.
 
It's so we don't know which Country to hack government files from :(

^_^
 
Well, I got all the information I know from wikipedia, so I don't know how accurate it is, but OMG NO.

"The proposed agreement would allow border officials to search laptops, MP3 players, and cellular phones for copyright-infringing content. It would also impose new cooperation requirements upon internet service providers (ISPs), including perfunctory disclosure of customer information, and restrict the use of online privacy tools. The proposal specifies a plan to encourage developing nations to accept the legal regime."

I was going to bold the parts I found most objectionable, but then I realised it would be pointless. Possibly the last part about developing nations. Capitalism as colonialism, anyone?
 
I know, this might be the stupidest question ever but What is all this about?I am bad at taking news so I dont know about it but I want to know.I got some of it from Nerrisa's post but still dont get it quite well.
 
Nickels and Nerissa: Here is an analysis and a link to the agreement itself.

Nerissa: I hadn't thought of that, but when I consider it, it makes sense.

Lila: This is an agreement that is being negotiated in secret by the United States, the European Commission, Japan, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Canada, and Mexico. It would create an organization that would answer to no government that would be allowed to search your computer, mp3 player, etc... for illegal files. They would be allowed to do this with warrants or reason. I know in the United States (not to certain on the details of other governments), but the Constitution makes it so every government entity is answerable to someone (in theory) and that one's property cannot be searched or taken without a warrant.
 
Ford Harkonnen said:
Nickels and Nerissa: Here is an analysis and a link to the agreement itself.
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Of course it's the states heading it up. :-W

& according to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
Search or seizure   
8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
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Of course according to section 33 of the Charter any act of parliament may take away those rights for up to five years, and may be re-enacted after it expires.
 
We may be heading it, but you guys are still going along with it.

Additionally:
Who is really behind ACTA? Follow the money:

Rep. Howard Berman (D-CA)

    Top four campaign contributions for 2006:

        Time Warner $21,000
        News Corp $15,000
        Sony Corp of America $14,000
        Walt Disney Co $13,550

    Top two Industries:

        TV/Movies/Music $181,050
        Lawyers/Law Firms $114,200

Other politicians listed also show significant contributions from IP industries.
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Ford Harkonnen said:
We may be heading it, but you guys are still going along with it.

Additionally:
Who is really behind ACTA? Follow the money:

Rep. Howard Berman (D-CA)

    Top four campaign contributions for 2006:

        Time Warner $21,000
        News Corp $15,000
        Sony Corp of America $14,000
        Walt Disney Co $13,550

    Top two Industries:

        TV/Movies/Music $181,050
        Lawyers/Law Firms $114,200

Other politicians listed also show significant contributions from IP industries.
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I'm not saying the Canadian government isn't dumb and without a backbone at times, but I'm glad they didn't try to start this international s#1t, granted they're trying something similar nationaly...
 
News Corp, the second largest contributor listed owns the following:
Books
    * HarperCollins book publishing company
    * Zondervan Christian book publisher
          o Youth Specialties - organisation helping youth workers worldwide through training seminars and conventions, resources and the internet.
          o Inspirio - religious gift production.

Newspapers
    * Australia published by News Limited.
          o The Australian (Nationwide)
          o Community Media Group (16 QLD & NSW suburban/regional titles)
          o The Courier-Mail (Queensland)
          o The Sunday Mail (Queensland)
          o The Cairns Post (Cairns, Queensland)
          o The Gold Coast Bulletin (Gold Coast, Queensland)
          o The Townsville Bulletin (Townsville, Queensland)
          o The Daily Telegraph (New South Wales)
          o The Sunday Telegraph (New South Wales)
          o Herald Sun (Victoria)
          o Sunday Herald Sun (Victoria)
          o The Weekly Times (Victoria)
          o Leader Newspapers (30 suburban Melbourne, VIC titles)
          o MX (Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane CBD)
          o The Geelong Advertiser (Geelong, Victoria)
          o The Advertiser (South Australia)
          o The Sunday Mail (South Australia)
          o Messenger Newspapers (11 suburban Adelaide, SA titles)
          o The Sunday Times (Western Australia)
          o The Mercury (Tasmania)
          o Quest Newspapers (19 suburban Brisbane, QLD titles)
          o The Sunday Tasmanian (Tasmania)
          o Northern Territory News (Northern Territory)
          o The Sunday Territorian (Northern Territory)
          o The Tablelands Advertiser (Atherton Tablelands and the Far North, Queensland)
    * Fiji
          o Fiji Times (National)
          o Nai Lalakai
          o Shanti Dut
    * Papua New Guinea
          o Papua New Guinea Post-Courier (National)(62.5%)
    * UK and Ireland newspapers, published by subsidiaries of News International Ltd.
          o News Group Newspapers Ltd.
                + the tabloid The Sun (published in Ireland as The Irish Sun)
                + the tabloid News of the World
          o Times Newspapers Ltd.
                + the broadsheet The Sunday Times
                + the 'ex-broadsheet' (Now in compact form) The Times
                + The Times Literary Supplement
          o NI Free Newspapers Ltd.
                + the free newspaper thelondonpaper
    * US newspapers and magazines
          o The New York Post
          o Dow Jones & Company
                + Consumer Media Group
                      # The Wall Street Journal - the leading US financial newspaper.
                      # Wall Street Journal Europe
                      # Wall Street Journal Asia
                      # Barron's - weekly financial markets magazine.
                      # Marketwatch - Financial news and information website.
                      # Far Eastern Economic Review
                + Enterprise Media Group
                      # Dow Jones Newswires - world's leading real-time news and information provider.
                      # Factiva - provides business news and information together with content delivery tools and services.
                      # Dow Jones Indexes - stock market indexes and indicators, including the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
                      # Dow Jones Financial Information Services - produces databases, electronic media, newsletters, conferences, directories, and other information services on specialized markets and industry sectors.
                      # Betten Financial News - leading Dutch language financial and economic news service.
                + Local Media Group
                      # Ottoway Community Newspapers - 8 daily and 15 weekly regional newspapers.
                + STOXX (33%)- joint venture with Deutsche Boerse and SWG Group for the development and distribution of Dow Jones STOXX indices.
                + Vedomosti (33%) - Russia's leading financial newspaper (joint venture with Financial Times and Independent Media).
                + SmartMoney (50%)
          o The Timesledger Newspapers in Queens, New York: Bayside Times, Whitestone Times, Flushing Times, Fresh Meadows Times, Little Neck Ledger, Jackson Heights Times, Richmond Hill Times, Jamaica Times, Laurelton Times, Queens Village Times, Astoria Times, Forest Hills Ledger, Ridgewood Ledger, Howard Beach Times
          o The Courier-Life Newspapers in Brooklyn
          o Caribbean Life
          o The Times-Herald Record

Magazines
    * News America Marketing (Smartsource) (weekly Sunday newspaper coupon insert/website)
    * The Weekly Standard (Washington, D.C.)
    * Australian
          o Alpha Magazine
          o Australian Country Style
          o Australian Golf Digest
          o Australian Good Taste
          o Big League
          o BCME
          o Delicious
          o Donna Hay
          o Fast Fours
          o GQ (Australia)
          o Gardening Australia
          o InsideOut (Aust)
          o Lifestyle Pools
          o Live to Ride
          o Notebook
          o Overlander 4WD
          o Modern Boating
          o Modern Fishing
          o Parents
          o Pure Health
          o Super Food Ideas
          o Truck Australia
          o Truckin' Life
          o twowheels
          o twowheels scooter
          o Vogue (Australia)
          o Vogue Entertaining & Travel
          o Vogue Living
    * Love it! (UK based Magazine)
    * InsideOut (UK Based Magazine)

Music / Radio

    * MySpace Records
    * India
          o Radio City (India radio station)(20%)held through STAR TV- commercial FM network with stations in 20 cities.
    * Russia
          o Nashe (50%)
          o Best FM (50%)

Sport

    * 50% of the National Rugby League (Australia and New Zealand)
    * Majority ownership of the Brisbane Broncos (68.9%) and, full ownership of the Melbourne Storm rugby league team.
    * Colorado Rockies (15%)

Studios

    * Fox Filmed Entertainment: 20th Century Fox's parent company
    * 20th Century Fox: a film production company
    * 20th Century Fox Television - primetime television programming.
    * 20th Television - primetime television distribution.
    * Fox Searchlight Pictures - specialized films.
    * Fox 2000 Pictures - general audience feature films.
    * Fox Television Studios(productions)- market specific programming eg. COPS.
    * Fox Television Studios International
          o Fox World Productions
          o Fox World Australia
          o Fox TV Studios France
          o Fox TV Studios India
          o Natural History New Zealand - natural world documentaries, non-fiction programming.
    * Fox Atomic - produces theatrical films, comics, and digital content targeting the 17-24 year olds. Aiming to produce/acquire eight films per year over a range of genres, specifically action and horror
    * Fox Faith - Promotion and distribution of Christian and related "family friendly" movies on DVD and some theatrical release.
    * Fox Studios Australia, Sydney, New South Wales
    * Blue Sky Studios - production of CGI films eg. Ice Age.
    * Fox Entertainment Group
    * New Regency Productions (20%) - general audience feature films.
    * Regency Television (50%) - mainstream television shows.
    * Regency Enterprises (20%) - parent company of New Regency Productions (50%), and Regency Television (50%).

TV

News Corp agreed to sell eight of its television stations to Oak Hill Capital Partners for approximately $1.1 billion as of December 22, 2007. The stations are US FOX affiliates.[12]

Broadcast

    * Fox Broadcasting Company (FOX), a US broadcast television network
    * My Network TV, a US broadcast television network
    * Fox Television Stations Group, a group of owned and operated FOX television stations
    * Saeta TV Channel 10, channel of Uruguay
    * ITV plc (17.5%), a British broadcast television network and the UK's largest advertising revenue based broadcaster via BSkyB, although a recent legal decision will require this stake to be cut.
    * News Corp Europe
          o bTV, a broadcast television network in Bulgaria
          o B1 TV (12,5%), a broadcast television network in Romania, in partnership with Ismar International NV
          o Fox Televizija, a broadcast television network in Serbia (49%)
          o Fox Turkey, a Turkish terrestrial channel (56,5%) (formerly TGRT)
          o Imedi Media Holding(100%), a Georgian radio and TV broadcaster.
                + Imedi Television
                + Radio Imedi
          o TV Puls (35%), a terrestrial channel in Poland.
          o Israel 10 (9%), a terrestrial channel in Israel.
          o LNT (100%), a terrestrial channel in Latvia
          o TV5 Riga (100%), a terrestrial channel in Latvia
    * ANTV (20%), a private television station in Indonesia, under the administration and label of STAR TV
    * Prime Television New Zealand - commercial TV station, interest held through stake in SKY Network Television

Satellite television

    * BSkyB, United Kingdom (39.1% holding).
    * Foxtel(25%), Australia, a joint venture with Telstra and Publishing and Broadcasting Limited
    * SKY Network Television , New Zealand (44%)
    * Sky Italia, Italian satellite TV service
    * Premiere AG (25.01%), Germany's largest pay TV provider.
    * STAR TV, an Asian satellite TV service
    * Phoenix Television (17.6%), satellite TV network with landing rights in Hong Kong, and select provinces on Mainland China
    * Tata Sky(20%), an Indian DTH TV service (in partnership with Tata Group)

Cable

CHANNELS

    * Fox Business Network, a business news channel.
    * Fox Classics, a channel airing solely classic movies
    * Fox Movie Channel, an all-movie channel that airs commercial-free movies from 20th Century Fox film library
    * Fox News Channel, a 24-hour news channel
    * Fox Reality, a 'Reality TV'-themed channel
    * Fox Sports Net, a chain of US regional cable television networks broadcasting local sporting events linked together by national sports news programming. Local channels include "Fox Sports Southwest", "Fox Sports Bay Area", etc. (some affiliates are owned by Cablevision).
    * Fox College Sports, a college sports network consisting of three regionally-aligned channels
    * SportSouth, a regional sports network in the United States, with its headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia.
    * Fox Sports International
          o Fox Soccer Channel, a United States digital cable network specializing mainly in soccer.
          o Fox Sports Middle East - English language sports network airing in Middle East countries including Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, UAE & Yemen.
          o Fox Pan American Sports (37.9%) - joint venture with Hicks, Muse, and Tate & Furst.
                + Fox Sports en Español (50%), a Spanish-language North American cable sports network; its sports lineup is tailored to appeal to a Latin American audience.
                + Fox Sports en Latinoamérica, a Mexico-based Latin American satellite and cable sports network.
    * FX Networks, a cable network broadcasting reruns of programming previously shown on other channels, but recently creating its own programming, including the Emmy Award-winning program The Shield.
    * SPEED Channel
    * FUEL TV
    * Big Ten Network, college football & basketball cable channel being launched Aug 2007 (49%)
    * National Geographic Channel (joint venture with National Geographic Magazine) 67%
    * National Geographic Channel International 75%
    * Fox International Channels, domestic cable channels offering different formats of Fox programming in over thirty countries worldwide.
          o
                + Fox
                + Fox Life
                + Fox Life HD
                + Fox Crime
                + FX
                + Fox Horror
                + Fox Movies
                + Fox Sports
                + Speed Channel
                + National Geographic Channel
                + National Geographic Channel HD
                + National Geographic Wild
                + National Geographic Adventure
                + National Geographic Music
                + National Geographic Junior
                + Cult
                + Next HD
                + Voyage
                + The History Channel
                + Real Estate TV
                + BabyTV
          o Fox Toma 1 - Spanish language television production.
          o Fox Telecolombia - Spanish language television production. (51%)
          o Utarget.Fox - European and Latin American online ad company, plus now handles TV ad sales.
    * Latin America
          o Fox Latin American Channels - channels available in over 17 countries in Latin America
                + Baby TV
                + Canal FOX
                + Canal FX
                + Canal Fox Life
                + Canal Fox Reality
                + Canal Fox Sports
                + Canal Speed
                + Canal National Geographic Channel
                + Fox One-Stop Media - advertising sales for company owned and third party channels in Latin America
          o LAPTV (22.5%)(Latin American Pay Television) operates 8 cable movie channels throughout South America excluding Brazil.
                + Movie City
                + Cine Canal
                + Cine Canal Classics
                + City Vibe
                + City Mix
                + The Film Zone
                + Movie City HD
                + Movie City On Demand
          o Telecine(12.5%) operates 5 cable movie channels in Brazil.
                + Telecine Premium
                + Telecine Action
                + Telecine Light
                + Telecine Pipoca
                + Telecine Cult
    * Australia
          o Premier Media Group (50%)
                + Fox Sports One
                + Fox Sports Two
                + Fox Sports Three
                + FoxSportsNews
                + FUEL TV (Australia)
                + How To Channel
          o Premium Movie Partnership (20%) - movie channels, a joint venture between 20th Century Fox, Sony Universal, Paramount and Liberty Media
                + Showtime 1 & 2
                + Showtime Greats

PLATFORMS

    * India
          o Hathway Cable & Datacom (22.2%), India's 2nd largest cable network through 7 cities including Bangalore, Chennai, Delhi, Mumbai & Pune
    * Taiwan
          o Total TV (20%), Pay TV platform with JV partner KOO's Group majority owner (80%). News Corp also has a 20% interest in the KOO's Group directly

Internet

    * Fox Interactive Media
          o Foxsports.com - website with sports news, scores, statistics, video and fantasy sports
          o MySpace - Social networking website, general interest website acquired through purchase from Intermix Media
          o MySpace TV, a video site which will host amateur videos, contents from net and studios that competes with Google YouTube
          o Photobucket - Photo sharing website.
          o Beliefnet - Largest online faith and spirituality network.
          o Hulu (45%) - online video download site in partnership with NBC Universal.
          o Flektor - provides Web-based tools for photo and video editing and mashups.
          o Grab.com - Entertainment/Games. (Acquired through purchase of Intermix Media)
          o IGN Entertainment - Internet entertainment portal (Includes the sites IGN, GameSpy, Rotten Tomatoes, TeamXbox, and Askmen.com)
          o Strategic Data Corp - interactive advertising company which develops technology to deliver targeted internet advertising.
          o Scout.com
          o WhatIfSports.com - sports simulation and prediction website. Also provides fantasy-style sports games to play.
    * Indya.com - 'India's no. 1 Entertainment Portal'
    * ROO Group Inc (5% increasing to 10% with performance targets)
    * News Digital Media
          o News.com.au - Australian-oriented news website
                + News Lab
          o CareerOne.com.au
          o CarsGuide.com.au
          o in2mobi.com.au
          o TrueLocal.com.au
          o Moshtix.com.au
          o Learning Seat
          o Netus (75%) - investment co. in online properties.
                + Travel.com.au (19.59%)
    * Realestate.com.au (58%)
          o Casa.it (59.4%), Sky Italia also holds a 30.6% share
          o atHome group, operator of leading realestate websites in Luxembourg, France, Belgium and Germany.
                + Altowin (51%),provider of office management tools for realestate agents in Belgium.
          o Propertyfinder.com (50%), News International holds the remaining 50%
          o PropertyLook, property websites in Australia and New Zealand.
          o HomeSite.com.au, home renovation and improvement website.
          o Square Foot Limited, Hong Kong's largest English Language property magazine and website
                + Primedia - Holding co. of Inside DB, a Hong Kong lifestyle magazine.
    * TadpoleNet Media (10%) Hosts of ArmySailor.com
    * New Zealand
          o DVD Unlimited - leading online DVD subscription service (ownership through stake in Sky Network Television).

Other assets

    * NDS - Conditional access technology and personal digital video recorders (PVRs) (74%) (also used to encrypt Sky Italia's DeeJay TV)
          o Jungo
          o Timothy Coville
          o ITE, publisher of Playstation and Mobile games, and interactive television
          o Orbis Technology, supplier of online gambling software
    * Broadsystem Ltd (UK) - Telephony provider for media companies, bought in 1991
    * Broadsystem Australia (Australia)
    * Broadsystem Ventures (UK) - provider of cheap-rate telephone calls, particularly for customers of Sky Television. Bought outright in 1999.
    * Jamba! - Mobile Entertainment/Mobile Handsets Personalization/Games. 51% majority stake acquired through deal with VeriSign in September 2006.
    * News Outdoor Group - Largest outdoor advertising company in Eastern Europe with over 70,000 ads including billboards and bus shelters, operating in Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Hungary, India, Israel, Poland, Romania, Russia (96 cities), Turkey & Ukraine.
          o Maximedia Israel (67%)
          o Mosgorreklama (50%) - Russia sign and marketing material manufacturer
          o Kamera Acikhava Reklamclik (?) - leading outdoor advertising company in Turkey
    * Australian Associated Press (45%) - real time news service.
    * Stats Inc (50%) - worlds leading provider of sporting information and statistical analysis (a JV with Associated Press)
    * Fox Sports Grill (50%) - Upscale sports bar and restaurant with 8 locations - Arizona, California, Seattle, New York, Dallas, Texas, Houston, Texas, Charlotte, North Carolina, and Atlanta, Georgia.
    * Fox Sports Skybox (70%) - Sports fan's Bar & Grill at Staples Center and 6 airport restaurants.
    * News America Marketing (US) - (100%) - nation’s leading marketing services company, products include a portfolio of in-store, home-delivered and online media under the SmartSource brand.
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:blink: Isn't Youtube a subsidiary of Google?
 
Ford Harkonnen said:
Professor Nicolas King said:
:blink: Isn't Youtube a subsidiary of Google?
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Indeed, 'tis. Time Warner is worse.
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Oo0o0OoOoo00 I read the quote wrong since youtube was on the next line I thought it was saying that News Corp owned youtube. <_<
 
Professor Nicolas King said:
Ford Harkonnen said:
Professor Nicolas King said:
:blink: Isn't Youtube a subsidiary of Google?
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Indeed, 'tis. Time Warner is worse.
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Oo0o0OoOoo00 I read the quote wrong since youtube was on the next line I thought it was saying that News Corp owned youtube. <_<
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I was a tad confused. :p
 
So, these countries will only be allowed to check things in their countries and those who have taken part in the org,yeah?

And,do they have to have any suspicious things or any base on which they search people's things??
 
I've been reading this throughout the day and am basically horrified.
It seems all privacy is slowly going out the window.

It would seem Benjamin that they don't need provocation at all to search if they feel like it they will do it!
What is the world coming to? :-W
 
Did nobody see this happening I mean Stateside anyways, this all began with the Patriot Act, giving up our freedoms for security, everone was fine with it then so whats the problem now...

JK of course I know this is messed up but it was being planned out for years and people did see it coming, and if you think it was just going to stay in the United States you were wrong, anyone that teamed up with President Bush's invasion plan into Iraq is most likely in this as well.
 
If they go through with this the whole world is basically screwed.
 
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